The Sub 37 can get angrier than the Voyager. The MB has some space between the sweetspots, but that's only a testament to it's versatility. The matrix concept of the Matrixbrute is very handy and versatile. The Matrixbrute has a great on-knob-per-function interface. I have tried the Matrixbrute, was quite impressed with the bottom end, but haven’t had the chance with the Voyager, and especially not the xl patchbay. The MatrixBrute is a programmable monophonic / duophonic analog synthesizer, outfitted with three ‘Brute’ oscillators, Steiner-Parker and ladder filters, three envelope generators, analogue effects and a matrix-style modulation matrix. MatrixBrute is an analog synthesizer that redefines a class of performance and studio synths that has not been matched since the glory days of the 70’s and 80’s. I preferred the Matrixbrute Sound and filters to the sub37. The Arturia MatrixBrute Synthesizer is one of the most talked-about new synths introduced at the 2016 NAMM Show.. Thank you for purchasing the Arturia MatrixBrute! All of them are useful, but one that really caught my eye is Create your Own LFO (CYOLFO). MatrixBrute sequencer is synced to it. Stepping into a market gap left by the discontinued Minimoog Voyager, the Arturia MatrixBrute offers a similar triple oscillator into low-pass filter voice architecture paired with a plethora of modern features designed for both the studio and stage. On top of this, I’ll run a number of CV connections between the MatrixBrute and Pro 2 and/or to other synths like a MicroBrute, Moog Voyager or Little Phatty. Soundwise the synth proofed to be, what I expected from the NAMM presentation and early audio examples. The MatrixBrute gives you the sonic quality and power of a vast modular synthesizer but with the flexibility of presets along with a great arpeggiator and an advanced sequencer. MatrixBrute. When you buy products through links across our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. "Syncing the sequencer on the Sequential Pro 3 to an Arturia MatrixBrute arpeggiator, a Moog MF-101 Low Pass Filter processes a Pro 3 oscillator output through a CV out. This is for me one of the most important features I love on the Voyager. However, the Sub 25 may be better seen as a successor to the Sub Phatty. Where did you get that done? The cheaper price of the Matrixbrute somewhat appealing, but I do want a long term piece where regret won’t be an issue, so the $ is secondary. It's a mixed response. The current Sub line of products seems unreliable in comparison, with a lot of people having problems with screens, potentiometers and more. The Moog build quality is legendary, as is the sound, which will not disappoint. If there was a rackable Sub37 then the decision would be harder. Arturia’s recent 2.0 firmware update added a long list of well thought-out improvements. If that is OK for you, go Voyager. At the 2016 winter NAMM show, Arturia announced the MatrixBrute, a 3 VCO analog synthesizer based on the MiniBrute. The Minimoog V is everything the original could have been and more, at a fraction of the price! MatrixBrute has a lot more out front for modulation matrix (ergo the name), as well as sequencing.Though, to put it simply and even if Arturia made a great synth, I wouldn't be sold on reliability and all of that until a year out or so. It's a mixed response. I like adding some aggression+dirt to sounds as well on occasion (so its good to hear your observation and realise the saturation/overdrive options on the Voyager are limited, though I believe you can route signals out and back in pre/post filter. There are some improvements on the wish lists, though. Playing leads on the Voyager over sequenced patterns while its filter is being modulated by clock-synced CVs and it’s being processed by a clock-synced complex delay on the H9 is a joy! I found a good deal on a 2nd hand, going to check the specs a bit more in-depth, So I finally found a great deal on a secondhand Matrixbrute. Moogs oscs into polivoks filter for nuclear holocaust win. MatrixBrute is an outstanding analog synthesizer. I dig the Moog sound… but I like flexibility moreso… you reconfirm my suspicions about the Mbrute having more variety of tone. Resonance is meh, even the ladder filter's goes from broken up in to tinny scream quite quickly, not much sweet spot. (For that there’s Monark.) At a glance: 3 ‘Brute’ oscillators superb-sounding Steiner-Parker and ladder filters, 3 ultra-fast envelope generators, analogue effects Arturia have had quite a journey from the early days of pushing their cartoonish Storm music making software on to somehow persuading Moog to let them do the virtual version of their classic synths, through to their recent and very successful foray into hardware analogue synthesis. Also dual filters for vowely sounds is a big appeal of the Voyager / Matrixbrute. I recently did the Slew Rate mod for £75 (or so) here in London to give it a bit more bite with the filter fully open… it makes a difference for sure, particularly if you are after more of a Model D sound. Quote from: Flux302 on September 25, 2016, 05:43:59 PM At the 2016 NAMM Show, Arturia introduced the MaxiBrute synthesizer.. Seriously one of the most impressive looking ‘instruments’ I have set eyes on. A Pro 3 oscillator is sent out its audio-rate CV post and filtered by the MF-101. The other day I wanted to try a USA/Russian mix and patched the Voyager to an AcidBox (Erica Synth, which is at its core a Polivoks VCF). The Minimoog Voyager and Voyager XL is are sonic powerhouses that pays homage to important milestones in the Moog synthesizer legacy. Below are some of the differences and advantages of each synth. 2 LFOs, 2 utility sections with mults and attenuators. Going back in to mess with the Matrixbrute tomorrow. Analog synth lovers, Arturia has something new for you. The Matrixbrute can sound moogy, if the ladder-filter is in use, but it does not try to fake it. The sweet spots were too few and too narrow. Already got at least 4 other synths ‘with’ keys, which is close to the limit. MatrixBrute is a … Obviously the MxB has more oscillators and LFOs that the Sub37 just doesn't have. The Arturia MatrixBrute is a full-featured analog synth that sounds great. Simplicity of layout with advanced analog synthesis is the aim. Arturia MatrixBrute MIDI Control Centre. Moog Minimoog Voyager Complete Instructional DVD Post by sub guy » Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:58 pm I don't have a Voyager but saw this new hour and a half video on you tube and thought some of you might appreciate it. Yep, those 3 (S-37, MB & D1) are so neck n neck in a lot of ways as modern mono synths, yet each also manages to go there own way (in a big way) to distinguish and differentiate sonically. I was thinking the Behringer D with its cv io might cover the Moog sound combined with the Matrixbrute in a small area. So if I dial up two saws on both synths with the filters open and play a note and tune the fundamentals with a tuner, and then play them together and tune them to each other by ear, I need to sharpen the Sub37 significantly (maybe 1/4 tone) to get the highest harmonics in tune with the MxB. With the demise of the Moog Voyager in favour of the reboot of the MiniMoog, there are secondhand Voyagers out there for similar money to the MatrixBrute – and again, these are synths that are built like tanks and will last for years, if cared for. It has some Moogy character but it’s its own thing (an asset, not a downside). $3,149.99. Electronic Music Instruments and Electronic Music Production, JD-XA or MatrixBrute to compliment my OB-6. In that price range id put the OB6 in the mix, that is such a lovely synthesizer… Good luck on the choice! Has lots of inputs too and two expression pedal input that can be used for cv and freely assigned in the matrix The smooth transition of the waveforms are also great in use at audio-range fm modulation. That was amazing …. The combination will be perfect. I’ve tested the thing, and it sounds veeeery good, and certainly the most versatile synth on the market right now that isn’t modular. This manual covers the features and operation of Arturia’s MatrixBrute. The sub oscillator on the Sub37 has an aggressive, buzzy tone (Moogish?) The MatrixBrute is a programmable monophonic / duophonic analog synthesizer, outfitted with three ‘Brute’ oscillators, Steiner-Parker and ladder filters, three envelope generators, analogue effects and a matrix-style modulation matrix. I am especially interested in anyone’s opinion who has owned/used/tried both. (separate reply for sounds comparisons, the previous being more of a tech tip). Packed with lots of new features and functions, including a massively expanded modulation matrix, new sequencer capabilities, custom LFO shaping, and a variety of other improvements to interface, and routing. thanks for the insights pulsn. Details. The FX are indeed unique, that radiophonic workshop soul. Be the first to review this product . They have far more in common than they have different so why even bother commenting if you have nothing remotely decent to say? Cross fading oscillator shapes on the Voyager are one of the big appeals. Dual or Four-Note Paraphnoic Support on the Matriarch allows you to play multiple notes simultaneously. There are a lot of questions in your post above that will take a while to answer but I think you are getting confused between audio output and control voltage. The worst things is the envelopes, they sound very blippy, not. Some trivia: I find it funny that Axel Hartmann had to pull back the Arturia team so that the MatrixBrute wouldn't look like a Voyager in the end. It basically comes down to what one is aiming for sonically (after all, a Voyager, a Pro 2, and a MatrixBrute all sound different), and whether the analog vs digital debate plays any role. Arturia MatrixBrute Soundsets and Patch Banks. More muscial and round. And thumbs up on the Cold War synthesis. It’s this stuff (wave shaping insights) that you don’t really get to know unless spending solid amounts of time with an instrument. But the filters section is a bit of a letdown, the filters aren't too character full, they just subtract from the sound rather than add, there's the brute factor but that goes into unpredictable squeeling character pretty fast. Hopefully thats possible on the MatrixBrute also. The first days in the studio I only checked all the features, which makes this synth unique and was smirking happily all the time. Good news: Arturia launches the MiniBrute 2. I like the Matrixbrute sequencer but it’s not essential as I have enough of that elsewhere. You can do this, but AFAIK this is exactly, what the Brute-Factor is supposed to do. The Tolex? From what I have read on several forums is that the cheaper models of the moogs are not as versatile and soundy as the real moog-synths (the bigger ones; minimoog, voyager). Tempting to get both it and the Matrixbrute and pass on the loser, rather than be second guessing after purchase. Does anyone know if you can download the full Voyager preset banks aware. Let's hope this is better and that those knobs were just in the demo version. Naturally, the PolyBrute is very similar to its monophonic sibling, MatrixBrute, albeit sporting a smaller matrix. MatrixBrute 2.0 Firmware is available now! Even down to the emulated overdriven sound by the external input feedback trick which is the only emulator, to my knowledge, capable of … I wouldn’t call it limited … it’s the way Moog designed it and the routing of the phones-out to the external-in is as old as the Minimoog Model-D itself. And the MatrixBrute is one instrument that'll sweep you off your feet. My experience is opposite as well. Advantages? You have already read the forum, so you might know all of the main issues already. The Voyager is a Moog, has the heritage of the Minimoog, and sounds like a Moog. Arturia’s recent firmware update for the MatrtixBrute opens the door to new sequencing capabilities. that you can't get on the MxB. The menu has some important functions under the hood, but easy enough to find and use. Thanks for the completely useless and unhelpful comment. I have both. It also has LP/HP/BP modes and 2/4-pole slopes but to my ears (and when comparing to my Moog Source and Voyager) it’s definitely rawer and more textured. Having done so, I used the software to set up the MatrixBrute’s MIDI parameters (all of which are, I think, self-evident from their names) as well as a handful of detailed parameters: pedal responses, the knob mode, the velocity curve and whether the sequencer and arpeggiator send notes via MIDI. Did it mean couriering the whole synth or just the relevant circuit board? Does anyone know if you can download the full Voyager preset banks aware. Posted by matrix at 2/28/2020 09:59:00 AM. … same here and I would add … the capability of audio range crossmodulation of this 3rd osc to the osc and the filter. It has some Moogy character but it’s its own thing (an asset, not a downside). Sequential Pro 3 3. Arturia's software lacks the punch and distortion that the real Mini is famous for. Arturia MatrixBrute 2. Both synths sound great, can do moog-like basses and melodies, but neither sounds that much like a Minimoog. With the demise of the Moog Voyager in favour of the reboot of the MiniMoog, there are secondhand Voyagers out there for similar money to the MatrixBrute – and again, these are synths that are built like tanks and will last for years, if cared for. Personally, unless you have plenty of space, are planning on using the patch panel and ribbon controller, I’d recommend a Voyager over the XL. Arturia have had quite a journey from the early days of pushing their cartoonish Storm music making software on to somehow persuading Moog to let them do the virtual version of their classic synths, through to their recent and very successful foray into hardware analogue synthesis. … so its good to hear your observation and realise the saturation/overdrive options on the Voyager are limited, though I believe you can route signals out and back in pre/post filter. To me, the Sub37 oscillators sound richer (or you could say the MxB sounds cleaner). Metal Pitch and Mod wheels are adjacent to the key bed and feel great to tweak. Arturia's software lacks the punch and distortion that the real Mini is famous for. It’s a good, rock solid, and lasting quality. A real Brute, with 2 VCOs, 2 LFOs, Steiner-VCF, sequencer / arpeggiator and a respectable modulation matrix (CV-panel). Thanks Soundrider… your reply is solid gold. Developed this idea about a Voyager XL combined with a Behringer Model D for 6osc noise walls, but I have been watching a lot of Matrixbrute tv and its got quite a bit going on that the Voyager doesn’t. This video offers an overview of the key features of the new synth. arturia minibrute isn't released yet. The MatrixBrute seems like the pinnacle of that evolutionary arc. The position and dimensions of all controllers, buttons, and knobs are just right. The filter-FM is quite responsive to the waveshape of osc 3. Will test tomorrow on that front. It has a lot of options and flexibility, and the oscs sound quite nice. The interface of the Voyager is great and fun to use. IMO, until the MatrixBrute has a proven track record, I'd go with the Voyager. Yep… I have considered the Dominion… but I don’t see it available to test or buy anywhere in Australia. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled. Music-heavy review, but I don't get too much into the specs (check their site if you want the granular details). Moog Subsequent 37. Valid suggestion. From dialogue with some other Voyager owners the problem it seems is more than likeky down to the previously reported Voyager Texas Instrument chip problem. Arturia later released an updated edition of the MicroBrute, the MicroBrute SE, which featured an updated Sub-Oscillator and step sequencer design . A viable product from a company like Arturia will have a 5x ratio of BOM cost vs retail. I have a “limited edition” Voyager Electric Blue KB with the black panel (instead of silver) from the last batch of 600 made… I am selling it to a friend as I want to diversify away from MOOG with the Model 15. Look at the knobs. You cant really do that with an XL because its so damn big and heavy. The many CV in/outs are great to connect to modular gear. On the Matrixbrute is more headroom until the crazyness happens. The Moog Subsequent 25 appears to be a compact, less expensive option than the popular Subsequent 37. So a $2000 Matrixbrute would be made for ~$400. Yes I'm finding it had to get my head around the difference between control voltage and audio signals. The MatrixBrute is a programmable monophonic / duophonic analog synthesizer, outfitted with three ‘Brute’ oscillators, Steiner-Parker and ladder filters, three envelope generators, analogue effects and a matrix-style modulation matrix. I'm looking forward to getting the minibrute. On the MiniBrute this can go crazy and completely destroy the sound quickly. For one Voyager knob you can get twenty arturia rubber knobs. The Voyager is the only analogue synth in my studio, which can do this and it delivers amazing sounds. And that is awesome but also my biggest complain about it. It took me a little while to get @spikysimon Es sieht aus wie der Moog Voyager Kühler Geschwister. I'm new to Moog and the Voyager EB so not sure how to fix is problem. The Moog build quality is legendary, as is the sound, which will not disappoint. Let's take a look at a blow by blow comparison of features of these three Moog synths: “Ladder” is a buzz word that many believe refers to a Moog sound. Moog Matriarch Advantages: 1. Can mix cv and modulate modulators before sending out of the matrixbrute to euro. Thanks, I know what to test out now. I'm a huge Moog aficionado so was really drawn to the Sub-37 (I actually tried the Sub Phatty prior, but didn't gel with it). 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